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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 13:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. The whole question of consumerism as religion is the focus of the PhD of a friend of my at Kings College, London - you can check him out at www.jasonclark.ws - his thesis is that consumerism is not just a philosophy or market &quot;ism&quot; but holds all the markings of an institutionalized religions, replete with it&#039;s own liturgy, priests, and places of worship. I&#039;m sure his project will culminate in a book at some point.

A few weeks ago I blogged on the question &quot;Is there such a thing as redemptive consumerism.&quot; If you, or anyone else, is interested in that post, you can find it here: http://1l2.us/bd5 One of the commenters reminded me of an excellent criticism of &quot;the hypocrisy of conscious consumerism&quot; by Philosopher Slavoj Zizek which you can find here: http://1l2.us/bd6 It helps that it the lecture has been animated by RSA Animate. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. The whole question of consumerism as religion is the focus of the PhD of a friend of my at Kings College, London &#8211; you can check him out at <a href="http://www.jasonclark.ws" rel="nofollow">http://www.jasonclark.ws</a> &#8211; his thesis is that consumerism is not just a philosophy or market &#8220;ism&#8221; but holds all the markings of an institutionalized religions, replete with it&#8217;s own liturgy, priests, and places of worship. I&#8217;m sure his project will culminate in a book at some point.</p>
<p>A few weeks ago I blogged on the question &#8220;Is there such a thing as redemptive consumerism.&#8221; If you, or anyone else, is interested in that post, you can find it here: <a href="http://1l2.us/bd5" rel="nofollow">http://1l2.us/bd5</a> One of the commenters reminded me of an excellent criticism of &#8220;the hypocrisy of conscious consumerism&#8221; by Philosopher Slavoj Zizek which you can find here: <a href="http://1l2.us/bd6" rel="nofollow">http://1l2.us/bd6</a> It helps that it the lecture has been animated by RSA Animate. </p>
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		<title>By: barefootmeg</title>
		<link>http://sustainabletraditions.com/2010/03/the-spiritual-crisis-of-consumerism/comment-page-1/#comment-171</link>
		<dc:creator>barefootmeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 00:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cornerstone ( &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornerstone_%28magazine&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornerstone_(magazine&lt;/a&gt;) ) once published a great in-depth article on this topic. It agreed pretty much with what you&#039;ve said, but one point the author brought out that I thought was particularly interesting was that even the &quot;Live Simply&quot; lifestyle doesn&#039;t mean stuff isn&#039;t your god. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have a friend who&#039;s house is always spotless, in large part because she&#039;s constantly getting rid of stuff.  She&#039;s a poster child for the &quot;Live Simply&quot; movement -- at least, it looks like she is when you see her place.  But she&#039;s also always buying stuff. What the Cornerstone article pointed out is that even if you don&#039;t have much, if you&#039;re just buying and purging constantly then you&#039;re still probably too into your stuff. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have the opposite problem that my friend has.  Not only do I probably buy more than I need, but I also hang on to stuff, just in case I need it some day.  Sometimes this works out really well and something I saved turns out to be Just the thing I needed. But other times it&#039;s all just clutter that gets in my way and takes up way too much of my time as I try to deal with it all (especially after our recent move). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All of this to say, I suppose, that it&#039;s pretty easy to be ruled by stuff, even when you think you&#039;ve got the upper hand.  I think what&#039;s helped me most is to constantly remind myself, &quot;Is this stuff helping people (enabling me to show hospitality, or to meet the needs of others, etc) or is it getting in the way of that?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cornerstone ( <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornerstone_%28magazine" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornerstone_(magazine</a>) ) once published a great in-depth article on this topic. It agreed pretty much with what you&#39;ve said, but one point the author brought out that I thought was particularly interesting was that even the &#8220;Live Simply&#8221; lifestyle doesn&#39;t mean stuff isn&#39;t your god. </p>
<p>I have a friend who&#39;s house is always spotless, in large part because she&#39;s constantly getting rid of stuff.  She&#39;s a poster child for the &#8220;Live Simply&#8221; movement &#8212; at least, it looks like she is when you see her place.  But she&#39;s also always buying stuff. What the Cornerstone article pointed out is that even if you don&#39;t have much, if you&#39;re just buying and purging constantly then you&#39;re still probably too into your stuff. </p>
<p>I have the opposite problem that my friend has.  Not only do I probably buy more than I need, but I also hang on to stuff, just in case I need it some day.  Sometimes this works out really well and something I saved turns out to be Just the thing I needed. But other times it&#39;s all just clutter that gets in my way and takes up way too much of my time as I try to deal with it all (especially after our recent move). </p>
<p>All of this to say, I suppose, that it&#39;s pretty easy to be ruled by stuff, even when you think you&#39;ve got the upper hand.  I think what&#39;s helped me most is to constantly remind myself, &#8220;Is this stuff helping people (enabling me to show hospitality, or to meet the needs of others, etc) or is it getting in the way of that?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 22:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks J. I agree that the consumer imagination pervades our lives in more ways than we care to imagine. I like the way Rodney Clapp describes the task at hand regarding consumer culture in his book Consuming Passions;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;All its elements are not simply good or bad. It is pervasive in both grossly obvious and infinitely subtle ways. It is profoundly rooted in faith, culture and society as we now know them. To the degree it is toxic, it is an ivy in the garden with its tendrils wrapped around and through our most beautiful flowers and our most essential vegetables. It could not be violently or wholly extirpated without destroying much that we rightly prize and protect. But just like such a vining plant it has grown too abundant and thick, so that it is now choking the life out of precious flowers and indispensable vegetables. Christians and other people of faith are among those who must gird themselves for a long, intricate and difficult pruning.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I like the site and sure appreciate the work you all are doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks J. I agree that the consumer imagination pervades our lives in more ways than we care to imagine. I like the way Rodney Clapp describes the task at hand regarding consumer culture in his book Consuming Passions;</p>
<p>&#8220;All its elements are not simply good or bad. It is pervasive in both grossly obvious and infinitely subtle ways. It is profoundly rooted in faith, culture and society as we now know them. To the degree it is toxic, it is an ivy in the garden with its tendrils wrapped around and through our most beautiful flowers and our most essential vegetables. It could not be violently or wholly extirpated without destroying much that we rightly prize and protect. But just like such a vining plant it has grown too abundant and thick, so that it is now choking the life out of precious flowers and indispensable vegetables. Christians and other people of faith are among those who must gird themselves for a long, intricate and difficult pruning.&#8221;</p>
<p>I like the site and sure appreciate the work you all are doing.</p>
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		<title>By: barefootmeg</title>
		<link>http://sustainabletraditions.com/2010/03/the-spiritual-crisis-of-consumerism/comment-page-1/#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>barefootmeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 19:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cornerstone ( &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornerstone_%28magazine&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornerstone_(magazine&lt;/a&gt;) ) once published a great in-depth article on this topic. It agreed pretty much with what you&#039;ve said, but one point the author brought out that I thought was particularly interesting was that even the &quot;Live Simply&quot; lifestyle doesn&#039;t mean stuff isn&#039;t your god. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have a friend who&#039;s house is always spotless, in large part because she&#039;s constantly getting rid of stuff.  She&#039;s a poster child for the &quot;Live Simply&quot; movement -- at least, it looks like she is when you see her place.  But she&#039;s also always buying stuff. What the Cornerstone article pointed out is that even if you don&#039;t have much, if you&#039;re just buying and purging constantly then you&#039;re still probably too into your stuff. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have the opposite problem that my friend has.  Not only do I probably buy more than I need, but I also hang on to stuff, just in case I need it some day.  Sometimes this works out really well and something I saved turns out to be Just the thing I needed. But other times it&#039;s all just clutter that gets in my way and takes up way too much of my time as I try to deal with it all (especially after our recent move). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All of this to say, I suppose, that it&#039;s pretty easy to be ruled by stuff, even when you think you&#039;ve got the upper hand.  I think what&#039;s helped me most is to constantly remind myself, &quot;Is this stuff helping people (enabling me to show hospitality, or to meet the needs of others, etc) or is it getting in the way of that?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cornerstone ( <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornerstone_%28magazine" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornerstone_(magazine</a>) ) once published a great in-depth article on this topic. It agreed pretty much with what you&#39;ve said, but one point the author brought out that I thought was particularly interesting was that even the &#8220;Live Simply&#8221; lifestyle doesn&#39;t mean stuff isn&#39;t your god. </p>
<p>I have a friend who&#39;s house is always spotless, in large part because she&#39;s constantly getting rid of stuff.  She&#39;s a poster child for the &#8220;Live Simply&#8221; movement &#8212; at least, it looks like she is when you see her place.  But she&#39;s also always buying stuff. What the Cornerstone article pointed out is that even if you don&#39;t have much, if you&#39;re just buying and purging constantly then you&#39;re still probably too into your stuff. </p>
<p>I have the opposite problem that my friend has.  Not only do I probably buy more than I need, but I also hang on to stuff, just in case I need it some day.  Sometimes this works out really well and something I saved turns out to be Just the thing I needed. But other times it&#39;s all just clutter that gets in my way and takes up way too much of my time as I try to deal with it all (especially after our recent move). </p>
<p>All of this to say, I suppose, that it&#39;s pretty easy to be ruled by stuff, even when you think you&#39;ve got the upper hand.  I think what&#39;s helped me most is to constantly remind myself, &#8220;Is this stuff helping people (enabling me to show hospitality, or to meet the needs of others, etc) or is it getting in the way of that?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://sustainabletraditions.com/2010/03/the-spiritual-crisis-of-consumerism/comment-page-1/#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks J. I agree that the consumer imagination pervades our lives in more ways than we care to imagine. I like the way Rodney Clapp describes the task at hand regarding consumer culture in his book Consuming Passions;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;All its elements are not simply good or bad. It is pervasive in both grossly obvious and infinitely subtle ways. It is profoundly rooted in faith, culture and society as we now know them. To the degree it is toxic, it is an ivy in the garden with its tendrils wrapped around and through our most beautiful flowers and our most essential vegetables. It could not be violently or wholly extirpated without destroying much that we rightly prize and protect. But just like such a vining plant it has grown too abundant and thick, so that it is now choking the life out of precious flowers and indispensable vegetables. Christians and other people of faith are among those who must gird themselves for a long, intricate and difficult pruning.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I like the site and sure appreciate the work you all are doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks J. I agree that the consumer imagination pervades our lives in more ways than we care to imagine. I like the way Rodney Clapp describes the task at hand regarding consumer culture in his book Consuming Passions;</p>
<p>&#8220;All its elements are not simply good or bad. It is pervasive in both grossly obvious and infinitely subtle ways. It is profoundly rooted in faith, culture and society as we now know them. To the degree it is toxic, it is an ivy in the garden with its tendrils wrapped around and through our most beautiful flowers and our most essential vegetables. It could not be violently or wholly extirpated without destroying much that we rightly prize and protect. But just like such a vining plant it has grown too abundant and thick, so that it is now choking the life out of precious flowers and indispensable vegetables. Christians and other people of faith are among those who must gird themselves for a long, intricate and difficult pruning.&#8221;</p>
<p>I like the site and sure appreciate the work you all are doing.</p>
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