is co-founder, along with his wife Pam, of the Sustainable Traditions project. He is curator/editor/illustrator/webmaster of the ST blogazine and envisions this virtual space as a voice for church renewal and Holy Spirit inspired resilience. Jason lives with his wife and six kids by the Blue Ridge Mountains in Bedford, Virginia plotting a course toward intentional Christian community. Find him on Twitter as @wiselywoven and @sustainabletrad
  • http://www.facebook.com/coffee.dahlstrom Richard Dahlstrom

    Hi Jason. Thanks for your thoughts and continued faithfulness blogging. I need to admit that I have mixed feelings about Hirsch’s writing. Their proper exposure of spiritual consumerism is, I fear, at risk of leading a pendulum swing in a different direction. In the name of discipleship, I see increasingly bold articulations that minimize the role of teaching and preaching. I understand the trough mentality and the danger of passivity all too well, but would caution that Eph 4 says that pastors and teachers are gifts to the church, not curses. They’re given to equip the saints. If instead of equipping, American churches are guilty of creating a sort of spiritual obesity – the answer is surely not to become spiritual anorexics. Teaching and preaching will remain vital to church health until Christ returns.

    • http://www.wiselywoven.com J Fowler

      Hi Richard, Thanks for continuing to be a part of the conversation. If you look at the broad spectrum of Alan Hirsch’s writings he is not an advocate of throwing out church leadership and their varied roles. I highly recommend his book The Forgotten Ways where he lays forth a robust vision for the renewal of the church – beginning with a return to an apostolic leadership and a renewed sense of the mission of GOD here in the West. If Alan seems to be throwing out the pastor in my excerpt it’s only because I may be using the excerpt irresponsibly. In all his books he is challenging a sleeping people to awaken to the latent power of the Gospel and GOD’s ability to release ‘Jesus movements’ or what he calls ‘apostolic genius’ through us. In his writings he is advocating for a fullness of the fivefold equipping ministry (APEPT: apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor, teacher) and he works through various avenues of teaching and mentoring to raise up missional leaders.

      It seems that for too long we have structured the church as an institution and not as a movement. We have struggled to create deeply rooted disciples of Jesus – and instead we are manufacturing church people. Something has to change but I agree we can’t throw out the pastoral role – we must retool church leadership to lead people out of the worldview of the dominant culture (including exiting consumerism) and to activate the inherent life of GOD that is waiting to be released. I look forward to continuing in conversation!